Comparing Gramps Ratings to the MBCA coaches poll
One of the ways that I can improve my statistical ratings is to look at some of the coaches polls that float around the area. I am sure the reverse in NOT true. I doubt whether any coaches or tournament seeding committees are looking at my statistically based ratings when the vote or when they seed tournaments. Maybe someday.....
I looked at Bill Gunn's MoSports.com and found the five classes rated by MBCA coaches. It looks a lot better than the Max Preps ratings which put much more weight and emphasis on winning records than level of competition and actual head to head results. Overall, Gunn's rankings are fair with a few exceptions, which I noted below each class ranking. There were a few teams that I had not collected complete game results so I learned a little too.
Anyway, here's my analysis. I hope Bill is not too upset by analyzing his coaches poll. Maybe the coaches will take more notice. LOL
I looked at Bill Gunn's MoSports.com and found the five classes rated by MBCA coaches. It looks a lot better than the Max Preps ratings which put much more weight and emphasis on winning records than level of competition and actual head to head results. Overall, Gunn's rankings are fair with a few exceptions, which I noted below each class ranking. There were a few teams that I had not collected complete game results so I learned a little too.
Anyway, here's my analysis. I hope Bill is not too upset by analyzing his coaches poll. Maybe the coaches will take more notice. LOL
2019-2020 Boys' Basketball Poll #3 (1/3) | |||
Bill Gunn • MoSports | |||
MOSports.com | |||
2019-2020 Boys' Basketball Poll #3 (Release 1/3) | |||
The MBCA Basketball poll is selected by a panel of coaches representing each of the 8 MBCA districts and each of the five Missouri basketball classes. | |||
Class 1 | Rating | My Rank | |
1 Dora | 121 | 2 | |
2 South Iron | 125 | 1 | |
3 Mound City | 90 | 14 | |
4 St. Elizabeth | 101 | 4 | |
5 Platte Valley | |||
6 Cairo | 97 | 7 | |
7 Leeton | 84 | 22 | |
8 Mercer | 84 | 23 | |
9 Leeton | |||
10 Princeton | 99 | 6 | |
Others receiving votes: Lesterville | 99 | 5 | |
Comments: I can't find Platte Valley in class 1. Leeton is listed twice. Mercer moved up from 72 to 83.5 rating. | |||
Class 2 | Rating | My Rank | |
1 Greenwood | 119 | 1 | |
2 Hartville | 112 | 2 | |
3 Oran | 98 | 3 | |
4 Skyline | 105 | 4 | |
5 Crane | 102 | 6 | |
6 Milan | 104 | 5 | |
7 Van-Far | 90 | 29 | |
8 Bernie | 99 | 10 | |
9 East Buchanan | 92 | 24 | |
10 Crest Ridge | 99 | 12 | |
Others receiving votes: Portageville, | |||
Mid-Buchanan | 97 | 15 | |
New Franklin | 100 | 7 | |
Thayer | 99 | 13 | |
Comments: Crest Ridge and Oran were not on my radar but they are both undefeated and winning impressively. Frankly, Van-Far and East Buchanan have not been impressive. I would rate New Franklin, Mid-Buchanan and Thayer above both. | |||
Class 3 | Rating | My Rank | |
1 Charleston | 117 | 1 | |
2 Blair Oaks | 122 | 6 | |
3 Father Tolton | 126 | 4 | |
4 Cardinal Ritter | 130 | 3 | |
5 Trinity Catholic | 134 | 2 | |
6 Monroe City | 103 | 27 | |
7 Kennett | 104 | 25 | |
8 Lathrop | 98 | 39 | |
9 Palmyra | 102 | 28 | |
10 St. Michael the Archangel | 106 | 16 | |
Others receiving votes: | |||
Lift for Life Academy | 118 | 8 | |
Fair Grove | 103 | 28 | |
Comments: After a strong start, Charleston lost to St. Dominics in their tournament and barely beat FHC. Not sure why Lift for Life is so low with Lathrop, Kennett, Monroe City and Palmyra in top 10. St. Michael had not been on my radar screen. | |||
Class 4 | Rating | My Rank | |
1 Vashon | 132 | 1 | |
2 Raytown South | 125 | 6 | |
3 MICDS | 126 | 4 | |
4 Nevada | 117 | 15 | |
5 Cape Central | 123 | 5 | |
6 McCluer | 128 | 2 | |
7 Ladue | 119 | 8 | |
8 Cape Notre Dame | 116 | 23 | |
9 Washington | 117 | 16 | |
10 Grandview (KC) | 127 | 3 | |
Others receiving votes: | |||
Sikeston | 118 | 11 | |
Confluence | 118 | 13 | |
Ruskin | 122 | 7 | |
Comments: Vashon's shimmer lost a little glitter with their 18 point loss to Memphis Lausannne. Nevada has some good wins and some not so good wins. Cape ND and Washington are good but not as good as Grandview, Siketons and Confluence. Ruskin is very solid and should be in the top 10 | |||
Class 5 | Rating | My Rank | |
1 Chaminade | 140 | 1 | |
2 Mehlville | 140 | 2 | |
3 DeSmet | 134 | 3 | |
4 CBC | 133 | 4 | |
5 Francis Howell | 132 | 5 | |
6 Kickapoo | 116 | 18 | |
7 Raymore Peculiar | 123 | 12 | |
8 Liberty | 125 | 8 | |
9 Webster Groves | 127 | 6 | |
10 Staley | 120 | 15 | |
Others receiving votes: Hazelwood Central | 118 | 19 | |
Comments: Other than Kickapoo and Ray-Pec, this is a pretty solid rankings. Liberty KC, William Chrisman and Rockhurst deserve more mention out west. Hazelwood West is better than their 3-5 record and will breakout in January. |
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